Nov FOMC minutes reveal "stale" view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.

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Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.

We discuss: The Nov FOMC minutes showed that views around upside risks to inflation seem stale.  By the time we get to Dec FOMC, there will be 2 additional CPI reports in hand.  Oct (good) and Nov (potentially good).  Thus, possibility Fed could shift dovishly.

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Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.

This remains a shortened holiday trading week, with fewer market participants around. Today, equities traded essentially flat ahead of Nvidia’s 3Q23 results (reported after the close). NVDA 1.39%  posted strong 3Q23 results with data center revenues of $14.5b vs $12.8b Street (tripling vs year ago) but the stock is slightly down after hours.

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
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  • Incoming economic data today was overall soft. Existing home sales came in at 3.79 million vs 3.90 million Street and regional surveys too Chicago Fed -0.49 vs Street 0.00. But to me, the Nov. FOMC minutes stood out.
  • While the overall tone was more dovish than past minutes, I was surprised to see how Fed discussed the two-sided risks for inflation. Specifically:
    – participants see “upside risks to inflation”
    – imbalances of “demand and supply could persist longer”
    – potential for more “limited declines in goods prices”
    – effects of a “tight housing market on shelter inflation”
  • To me, these seem like stale views on inflation. This FOMC meeting was 10/31-11/1 before the October CPI report released (mid-Nov). And many of the above concerns were shown to be less pertinent. And as Deep Macro’s Jeff Young has noted, the upcoming November CPI report likely shows even more downside pressure on inflation.
  • The 10-year yields sort of agree with our take. When the minutes were released at 2pm today, yields rose into that, but after some time, reversed course and fell by the afternoon. In other words, markets could be seeing the above FOMC views as stale.
  • And this matters because, this means the FOMC members have room to move dovishly in this December FOMC meeting (12/13). And there will be the November CPI release on 12/12. So this would be 2 additional CPI reports that FOMC member have in hand — Oct CPI (good) and Nov CPI (expected to be good).
  • Blackbook used car data shows that used car prices softened during the week -1.5% and seasonally worse than average. And their inventory data shows a major jump in inventory to near 2023 highs. The economics of used cars is worsening due to high floorplan costs and costs to buyers. These are anecdotes but do support the view Nov FOMC views are stale.

Bottom line: Our base case remains for a YE rally, and upcoming Nov CPI and Dec FOMC likely catalysts

The bottom line is the Nov FOMC minutes seem stale relative to the reality of incoming inflation data and upcoming Nov CPI (12/12) likely reinforces this. And thus, Dec FOMC meeting could see Fed members make a dovish move.

  • By Dec FOMC meeting the Fed will have potentially 2 good CPI reports — Oct and Nov.
  • Raising probabilities that they could marginally move away from “higher for longer”
  • We still see a rally into YE and next week and upcoming Nov CPI (as well as the Dec FOMC) might be the catalyst
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Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
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Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: Federal Reserve

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: Federal Reserve

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: Bloomberg

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: X.com

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: Blackbook.com

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: Blackbook.com

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: X.com

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: X.com

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: DeepMacro

Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Source: X.com

Key incoming data November

  • 11/01 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI October Final Tame 
  • 11/01 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings September Mixed
  • 11/01 10am ET October ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 11/01 10am ET Treasury 4Q23 Quarterly Refunding Press Conference Tame
  • 11/01 2pm ET FOMC Rate Decision Dovish
  • 11/02 8:30am ET: 3Q23 Nonfarm Productivity Tame
  • 11/03 8:30am ET October Jobs Report Tame
  • 11/03 10am ET October ISM Services Mixed
  • 11/07 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index October Final Tame
  • 11/10 10am ET U. Mich. November prelim Sentiment and Inflation Expectation Hot
  • 11/14 8:30am ET October CPI Tame
  • 11/15 8:30am ET October PPI Tame
  • 11/15 8:30am ET November Empire Manufacturing Survey  Resilient
  • 11/15 8:30am ET October Retail Sales Data Resilient
  • 11/16 8:30am ET November New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  • 11/16 8:30am ET November Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Tame
  • 11/16 10am ET November NAHB Housing Market Index  Tame
  • 11/17 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index November Mid-Month Tame
  • 11/21 2pm ET Nov FOMC Meeting Minutes Tame
  • 11/22 10am ET: U. Mich. November final Sentiment and Inflation Expectation
  • 11/24 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI November Prelim 
  • 11/27 10:30am ET Dallas Fed November Manufacturing Activity Survey
  • 11/28 9am ET November S&P CoreLogic CS home price 
  • 11/28 10am ET November Conference Board Consumer Confidence
  • 11/29 8:30am ET 3QS 2023 GDP
  • 11/29 2pm ET Fed Releases Beige Book
  • 11/30 8:30am ET October PCE

Key incoming data October

  •  10/2 10am ET September ISM Manufacturing Tame
  •  10/3 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings August Hot
  •  10/4 10am ET September ISM Services Tame
  •  10/6 8:30am ET September Jobs Report Mixed
  •  10/6 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index September Final Tame
  • 10/10 11am NY Fed Inflation Expectations Mixed
  •  10/11 8:30am ET September PPI Mixed
  •  10/11 2pm ET Sep FOMC Meeting Minutes Tame
  •  10/12 8:30am ET September CPI Mixed
  •  10/13 10am ET U. Mich. September prelim 1-yr inflation Mixed
  •  10/16 8:30am ET October Empire Manufacturing Survey Tame
  •  10/17 8:30am ET October New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  • 10/17 8:30am ET September Retail Sales Data Hot
  •  10/17 9am ET Manheim October Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Tame
  •  10/17 10am ET October NAHB Housing Market Index Tame
  • 10/18 8:30am ET September Housing Starts Tame
  • 10/18 2pm ET Fed releases Beige Book Tame
  •  10/19 8:30am ET October Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Tame
  • 10/19 10am ET Existing Home Sales Tame
  • 10/19 12pm ET Fed (including Powell) at Economic Club of New York
  •  10/24 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI October Prelim Tame
  •  10/26 8:30am ET 3Q 2023 GDP Advance Strong
  •  10/27 8:30am ET September PCE Tame
  •  10/27 10am ET Oct F UMich Sentiment and Inflation expectation Tame
  •  10/30 10:30am ET Dallas Fed September Manufacturing Activity Survey Tame
  • 10/31 8:30am ET 3Q23 Employment Cost Index Mixed
  •  10/31 9am ET August S&P CoreLogic CS home price Mixed
  •  10/31 10am ET October Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame

Key incoming data September

  •  9/1 8:30am ET August Jobs Report Tame
  •  9/1 10am ET August ISM Manufacturing Tame
  •  9/6 10am ET August ISM Services Mixed
  •  9/6 2pm ET Fed releases Beige Book Tame
  •  9/8 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index August Final Tame
  •  9/8 2Q23 Fed Flow of Funds Report Tame
  •   9/13 8:30am ET August CPI Mixed
  •  9/14 8:30am ET August PPI Tame
  •  9/15 8:30am ET September Empire Manufacturing Survey Tame
  •  9/15 10am ET U. Mich. September prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  •  9/18 8:30am ET September New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  •  9/18 10am ET September NAHB Housing Market Index Tame
  •  9/19 9am ET Manheim September Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Mixed
  •  9/20 2pm ET September FOMC rates decision Market saw Hawkish
  •  9/21 8:30am ET September Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Mixed
  •  9/22 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI September Prelim
  •  9/25 10:30am ET Dallas Fed September Manufacturing Activity Survey
  •  9/26 9am ET July S&P CoreLogic CS home price
  •  9/26 10am ET September Conference Board Consumer Confidence

Key incoming data August

  • 8/1 10am ET July ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 8/1 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings Jun Tame
  • 8/2 8:15am ADP National Employment Report Hot
  • 8/3 10am ET July ISM Services Tame
  • 8/4 8:30am ET July Jobs report Tame
  • 8/7 11am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index July Final Tame
  • 8/10 8:30am ET July CPI Tame
  • 8/11 8:30am ET July PPI Tame
  • 8/11 10am ET U. Mich. July prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 8/11 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker July Tame
  • 8/15 8:30am ET Aug Empire Manufacturing SurveyMixed 
  • 8/15 10am ET Aug NAHB Housing Market IndexTame
  • 8/16 8:30am ET Aug New York Fed Business Activity SurveyNeutral
  • 8/16 2pm ET FOMC MinutesMixed 
  • 8/17 8:30am ET Aug Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Positive
  • 8/17 Manheim Aug Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value IndexTame
  • 8/23 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI Aug PrelimWeak
  • 8/25 10am ET Aug Final U Mich 1-yr inflationMixed
  • 8/28 10:30am ET Dallas Fed Aug Manufacturing Activity Survey Tame
  • 8/29 9am ET June S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 8/29 10am ET Aug Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 8/29 10 am ET Jul JOLTS Tame
  • 8/31 8:30am ET July PCE Tame

Key incoming data July

  • 7/3 10am ET June ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 7/6 8:15am ADP National Employment Report Hot
  • 7/6 10am ET June ISM Services Tame
  • 7/6 10 am ET May JOLTS Tame
  • 7/7 8:30am ET June Jobs report Mixed
  • 7/10 11am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index June Final Tame
  • 7/12 8:30am ET June CPI Tame
  • 7/13 8:30am ET June PPI Tame
  • 7/13 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker June Tame
  • 7/14 10am ET U. Mich. June prelim 1-yr inflation Mixed
  • 7/17 8:30am July Empire Manufacturing Survey
  • 7/18 8:30am July New York Fed Business Activity Survey
  • 7/18 10am July NAHB Housing Market Index in-line
  • 7/18 Manheim July Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Tame
  • 7/25 9am ET May S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 7/25 10am ET July Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 7/26 2pm ET July FOMC rates decision Tame
  • 7/28 8:30am ET June PCE Tame
  • 7/28 8:30am ET 2Q ECI Employment Cost Index Tame
  • 7/28 10am ET July Final U Mich 1-yr inflation Tame

Key data from June

  • 6/1 10am ET May ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 6/2 8:30am ET May Jobs report Tame
  • 6/5 10am ET May ISM Services Tame
  • 6/7 Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index May Tame
  • 6/9 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker April Tame
  • 6/13 8:30am ET May CPI Tame
  • 6/14 8:30am ET May PPI Tame
  • 6/14 2pm ET April FOMC rates decision Tame
  • 6/16 10am ET U. Mich. May prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 6/27 9am ET April S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 6/27 10am ET June Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 6/30 8:30am ET May PCE Tame
  • 6/30 10am ET June Final U Mich 1-yr inflation Tame

Key data from May

  • 5/1 10am ET April ISM Manufacturing (PMIs turn up) Positive inflection
  • 5/2 10am ET Mar JOLTS Softer than consensus
  • 5/3 10am ET April ISM Services Tame
  • 5/3 2pm Fed May FOMC rates decision Dovish
  • 5/5 8:30am ET April Jobs report Tame
  • 5/5 Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index April Tame
  • 5/8 2pm ET April 2023 Senior Loan Officer Opinion Survey Better than feared
  • 5/10 8:30am ET April CPI Tame
  • 5/11 8:30am ET April PPI Tame
  • 5/12 10am ET U. Mich. April prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 5/12 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker April Tame
  • 5/24 2pm ET May FOMC minutes Dovish
  • 5/26 8:30am ET PCE April Tame
  • 5/26 10am ET U. Mich. April final 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 5/31 10am ET JOLTS April job openings

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Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.
Nov FOMC minutes reveal stale view of inflation risks = room for Fed to move dovish Dec.

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