Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move "dovish" in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday
Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

We discuss: how yesterday’s Oct Core PCE now shows inflation below 2% for 4 of the last 5 months and gives room for Fed to move “dovish” in Dec.  We will get hints Friday from Powell speaking at Spelman College.

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Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

October Core PCE came in at +0.16%, about in line with Street of +0.20%. Core PCE MoM has come in below +0.20% in 4 of the last 5 months (Sept was the aberration) and this is reason we expect FOMC and Fed to now have room to move “dovish” in December (12/13):

  • For much of the past year, investors and Fed have spoken of the “higher for longer” view as they view inflation as sticky and therefore require a period of excessive restrictive rates to get inflation back towards 2%.
  • But with the Oct PCE in hand, it is evident that inflation is tracking lower. This has been our view and our base case for 2023. Even the Super Core Services came in at +0.15% MoM and 3.93% YoY. That YoY is the lowest since 2020. Inflation is clearly slowing.
  • The largest contributor to Core PCE MoM inflation in October was hospital and nursing services contributing +0.08% of the +0.16%. Ex-this, Core PCE would be close to 0% and the best in 3 years. Does Fed rates really slow “hospital and nursing services” expenses? This is another reason to see inflation as tracking far better than expected.
  • And as we think towards December FOMC, one can be more confident the Fed can make a dovish move. At a simple level, the SEP (summary economic projections) for 2023 are already way off:
    – Fed Sept SEP expected Core PCE YoY of +3.7%
    – Oct Core PCE YoY is currently 3.5%, below Dec forecast
    – at this pace, Core PCE YoY likely 3.1-3.3% by YE
    – we wrote of this previously
  • In other words, if the Fed forecast for inflation for 2023 is +0.40% too high (3.7% vs 3.3%) and this forecast was made just 2 months ago, what does it say about how it thinks about 2024? Will Fed suddenly assert that inflation accelerates again so they have to keep “higher for longer”? Or will Fed acknowledge that far better progress and give themselves room to make a “dovish” move?
  • Powell is set to speak twice on Friday at Spelman College in a fireside chat 11am and a roundtable at 2pm. The above will be discussed and we know earlier in the week, Fed Gov Waller also opened the idea of rate cuts in 2024. Thus, there is a strong possibility that Powell might reveal how the FOMC thinking might be evolving into the Dec FOMC meeting.
  • In my opinion, the evidence seems to point to an easing of inflation faster than expected. And thus, gives them room to walk back their “higher for longer” hawkish tone seen for much of 2023 and the resulting efforts to dampen expectations for moving away from “higher for longer.”
  • The Chicago regional PMI came out yesterday and it was a surprise beat of 55.8 vs 46.0 consensus. This lifts the regional PMI back into expansion territory. Our head of data science “tireless Ken” notes that a sharp move like this probably bodes well for the Nov ISM Manufacturing which is set to be released on Friday at 10am ET.
  • An upturn in ISM manufacturing bodes well for EPS growth in 2024 as there is strong relationship between ISM inflections higher and EPS growth. This is shown in the first chart below.

Bottom line: The fundamental data has been supportive of equities as we head into Powell Friday

Bottom line, we see stocks with positive tailwinds into YE. This month is likely a zig-zag as conflicting inflation and growth data causes moves in rates and thus stocks. But the primary turning point higher is mid-December post Dec FOMC.

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday
Source: X.com

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday
Source: Bloomberg

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Oct Core PCE affirms Fed has room to move dovish in Dec. Powell speaks Friday

Key incoming data December

  • 12/01 9:45am ET S&P Global Manufacturing PMI November Final
  • 12/01 10am ET November ISM Manufacturing
  • 12/05 9:45am ET S&P Global Services & Composite PMI November Final
  • 12/05 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings October
  • 12/05 10am ET November ISM Services
  • 12/06 8:30am ET 3QF 2023 Nonfarm Productivity
  • 12/07 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index November Final
  • 12/08 8:30am ET November Jobs Report
  • 12/08 10am ET U. Mich. Sentiment and Inflation Expectation December Prelim
  • 12/12 8:30am ET November CPI
  • 12/13 8:30am ET November PPI
  • 12/13 2pm ET FOMC Rate Decision
  • 12/14 8:30am ET November Retail Sales Data
  • 12/15 8:30am ET December Empire Manufacturing Survey
  • 12/15 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI December Prelim
  • 12/18 8:30am ET December New York Fed Business Activity Survey
  • 12/18 10am ET December NAHB Housing Market Index
  • 12/19 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index December Mid-Month
  • 12/20 10am ET December Conference Board Consumer Confidence
  • 12/21 8:30am ET 3QT 2023 GDP
  • 12/21 8:30am ET December Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey
  • 12/22 8:30am ET November PCE
  • 12/22 10am ET: U. Mich. Sentiment and Inflation Expectation December Final
  • 12/26 9am ET December S&P CoreLogic CS home price
  • 12/26 10:30am ET Dallas Fed December Manufacturing Activity Survey

Key incoming data November

  • 11/01 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI October Final Tame 
  • 11/01 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings September Mixed
  • 11/01 10am ET October ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 11/01 10am ET Treasury 4Q23 Quarterly Refunding Press Conference Tame
  • 11/01 2pm ET FOMC Rate Decision Dovish
  • 11/02 8:30am ET: 3Q23 Nonfarm Productivity Tame
  • 11/03 8:30am ET October Jobs Report Tame
  • 11/03 10am ET October ISM Services Mixed
  • 11/07 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index October Final Tame
  • 11/10 10am ET U. Mich. November prelim Sentiment and Inflation Expectation Hot
  • 11/14 8:30am ET October CPI Tame
  • 11/15 8:30am ET October PPI Tame
  • 11/15 8:30am ET November Empire Manufacturing Survey  Resilient
  • 11/15 8:30am ET October Retail Sales Data Resilient
  • 11/16 8:30am ET November New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  • 11/16 8:30am ET November Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Tame
  • 11/16 10am ET November NAHB Housing Market Index  Tame
  • 11/17 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index November Mid-Month Tame
  • 11/21 2pm ET Nov FOMC Meeting Minutes Tame
  • 11/22 10am ET: U. Mich. November final Sentiment and Inflation Expectation Tame
  • 11/24 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI November Prelim Mixed
  • 11/27 10:30am ET Dallas Fed November Manufacturing Activity Survey Tame
  • 11/28 9am ET November S&P CoreLogic CS home price  Tame
  • 11/28 10am ET November Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 11/29 8:30am ET 3QS 2023 GDP Strong
  • 11/29 2pm ET Fed Releases Beige Book Tame
  • 11/30 8:30am ET October PCE Tame

Key incoming data October

  •  10/2 10am ET September ISM Manufacturing Tame
  •  10/3 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings August Hot
  •  10/4 10am ET September ISM Services Tame
  •  10/6 8:30am ET September Jobs Report Mixed
  •  10/6 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index September Final Tame
  • 10/10 11am NY Fed Inflation Expectations Mixed
  •  10/11 8:30am ET September PPI Mixed
  •  10/11 2pm ET Sep FOMC Meeting Minutes Tame
  •  10/12 8:30am ET September CPI Mixed
  •  10/13 10am ET U. Mich. September prelim 1-yr inflation Mixed
  •  10/16 8:30am ET October Empire Manufacturing Survey Tame
  •  10/17 8:30am ET October New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  • 10/17 8:30am ET September Retail Sales Data Hot
  •  10/17 9am ET Manheim October Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Tame
  •  10/17 10am ET October NAHB Housing Market Index Tame
  • 10/18 8:30am ET September Housing Starts Tame
  • 10/18 2pm ET Fed releases Beige Book Tame
  •  10/19 8:30am ET October Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Tame
  • 10/19 10am ET Existing Home Sales Tame
  • 10/19 12pm ET Fed (including Powell) at Economic Club of New York
  •  10/24 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI October Prelim Tame
  •  10/26 8:30am ET 3Q 2023 GDP Advance Strong
  •  10/27 8:30am ET September PCE Tame
  •  10/27 10am ET Oct F UMich Sentiment and Inflation expectation Tame
  •  10/30 10:30am ET Dallas Fed September Manufacturing Activity Survey Tame
  • 10/31 8:30am ET 3Q23 Employment Cost Index Mixed
  •  10/31 9am ET August S&P CoreLogic CS home price Mixed
  •  10/31 10am ET October Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame

Key incoming data September

  •  9/1 8:30am ET August Jobs Report Tame
  •  9/1 10am ET August ISM Manufacturing Tame
  •  9/6 10am ET August ISM Services Mixed
  •  9/6 2pm ET Fed releases Beige Book Tame
  •  9/8 9am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index August Final Tame
  •  9/8 2Q23 Fed Flow of Funds Report Tame
  •   9/13 8:30am ET August CPI Mixed
  •  9/14 8:30am ET August PPI Tame
  •  9/15 8:30am ET September Empire Manufacturing Survey Tame
  •  9/15 10am ET U. Mich. September prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  •  9/18 8:30am ET September New York Fed Business Activity Survey Tame
  •  9/18 10am ET September NAHB Housing Market Index Tame
  •  9/19 9am ET Manheim September Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Mixed
  •  9/20 2pm ET September FOMC rates decision Market saw Hawkish
  •  9/21 8:30am ET September Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Mixed
  •  9/22 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI September Prelim
  •  9/25 10:30am ET Dallas Fed September Manufacturing Activity Survey
  •  9/26 9am ET July S&P CoreLogic CS home price
  •  9/26 10am ET September Conference Board Consumer Confidence

Key incoming data August

  • 8/1 10am ET July ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 8/1 10am ET JOLTS Job Openings Jun Tame
  • 8/2 8:15am ADP National Employment Report Hot
  • 8/3 10am ET July ISM Services Tame
  • 8/4 8:30am ET July Jobs report Tame
  • 8/7 11am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index July Final Tame
  • 8/10 8:30am ET July CPI Tame
  • 8/11 8:30am ET July PPI Tame
  • 8/11 10am ET U. Mich. July prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 8/11 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker July Tame
  • 8/15 8:30am ET Aug Empire Manufacturing SurveyMixed 
  • 8/15 10am ET Aug NAHB Housing Market IndexTame
  • 8/16 8:30am ET Aug New York Fed Business Activity SurveyNeutral
  • 8/16 2pm ET FOMC MinutesMixed 
  • 8/17 8:30am ET Aug Philly Fed Business Outlook Survey Positive
  • 8/17 Manheim Aug Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value IndexTame
  • 8/23 9:45am ET S&P Global PMI Aug PrelimWeak
  • 8/25 10am ET Aug Final U Mich 1-yr inflationMixed
  • 8/28 10:30am ET Dallas Fed Aug Manufacturing Activity Survey Tame
  • 8/29 9am ET June S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 8/29 10am ET Aug Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 8/29 10 am ET Jul JOLTS Tame
  • 8/31 8:30am ET July PCE Tame

Key incoming data July

  • 7/3 10am ET June ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 7/6 8:15am ADP National Employment Report Hot
  • 7/6 10am ET June ISM Services Tame
  • 7/6 10 am ET May JOLTS Tame
  • 7/7 8:30am ET June Jobs report Mixed
  • 7/10 11am ET Manheim Used Vehicle Index June Final Tame
  • 7/12 8:30am ET June CPI Tame
  • 7/13 8:30am ET June PPI Tame
  • 7/13 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker June Tame
  • 7/14 10am ET U. Mich. June prelim 1-yr inflation Mixed
  • 7/17 8:30am July Empire Manufacturing Survey
  • 7/18 8:30am July New York Fed Business Activity Survey
  • 7/18 10am July NAHB Housing Market Index in-line
  • 7/18 Manheim July Mid-Month Used Vehicle Value Index Tame
  • 7/25 9am ET May S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 7/25 10am ET July Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 7/26 2pm ET July FOMC rates decision Tame
  • 7/28 8:30am ET June PCE Tame
  • 7/28 8:30am ET 2Q ECI Employment Cost Index Tame
  • 7/28 10am ET July Final U Mich 1-yr inflation Tame

Key data from June

  • 6/1 10am ET May ISM Manufacturing Tame
  • 6/2 8:30am ET May Jobs report Tame
  • 6/5 10am ET May ISM Services Tame
  • 6/7 Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index May Tame
  • 6/9 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker April Tame
  • 6/13 8:30am ET May CPI Tame
  • 6/14 8:30am ET May PPI Tame
  • 6/14 2pm ET April FOMC rates decision Tame
  • 6/16 10am ET U. Mich. May prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 6/27 9am ET April S&P CoreLogic CS home price Tame
  • 6/27 10am ET June Conference Board Consumer Confidence Tame
  • 6/30 8:30am ET May PCE Tame
  • 6/30 10am ET June Final U Mich 1-yr inflation Tame

Key data from May

  • 5/1 10am ET April ISM Manufacturing (PMIs turn up) Positive inflection
  • 5/2 10am ET Mar JOLTS Softer than consensus
  • 5/3 10am ET April ISM Services Tame
  • 5/3 2pm Fed May FOMC rates decision Dovish
  • 5/5 8:30am ET April Jobs report Tame
  • 5/5 Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index April Tame
  • 5/8 2pm ET April 2023 Senior Loan Officer Opinion Survey Better than feared
  • 5/10 8:30am ET April CPI Tame
  • 5/11 8:30am ET April PPI Tame
  • 5/12 10am ET U. Mich. April prelim 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 5/12 Atlanta Fed Wage Tracker April Tame
  • 5/24 2pm ET May FOMC minutes Dovish
  • 5/26 8:30am ET PCE April Tame
  • 5/26 10am ET U. Mich. April final 1-yr inflation Tame
  • 5/31 10am ET JOLTS April job openings

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